FACEBOOK FUN(damentalism)! - Part 2

This is Part II of the Facebook Wall conversation that inspired the Top Ten Video I recently posted.

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Amanda:
"Perverted Christianity," I like that, Peter, and find it interesting.  While I understand what you are saying and rather agree with it, I believe that there is no such thing as a "manifestation" of the Christian religion, at least not in the sense you are trying to convey.  What you are describing is more or less the same description for "mutation," a changing within one's own religion.  We all know that Gods word is the truth and is steadfast.

I believe it's a manifestation of evil, of the Devil that has unfortunately grasped the weakest in some of us. The devil has been with man since the beginning of time, there is no lie in saying that large groups of people within the Christian religion have faltered,no lie in that at all. However it is not due to perversity from the religion it's due directly to Satan. So I get what you are saying I just want others to know and grasp that just because something was done a certain way in the past doesn't make it right today or even then, know what I mean? The word means what it means and unfortunately to many people have taken it to mean that it's open to all interpretations.

Unfortunately I have not read the Quran in depth but I do know that it does call people to kill in the name of Muhammad as well as show mercy in the name of Muhammad. That is something I shall have to remedy :)

Alfonso:
If you believe Jesus promoted problematic, violent acts, then blame the same on those who follow him problematic and violent, there is a problem. The problem is not Jesus, nor is it a problem of Christianity.

Amanda:
John 16:1-3 is a good answer~

"These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended."

John 16:2 "They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service."

John 16:3 "And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me."

Me:
There's no real room for conversation with the last couple of comments. If one is convinced of the 100% rightness of one's particular religious manifestation, then there is little if any room for moderation, middle ground or ecumenism. It strikes me that this is the incubating temperature for the extremism we're dealing with in today's religious climate: no one recognizing the plank in their own eye (personal, or corporate/theological).

I don't believe Jesus promoted problematic, violent acts, but 2,000 years have demonstrated that his model is not consistently interpreted, which is a parable in itself.

We can do better. Self-defense is not the starting point for doing better. It strikes me that "taking up my cross" does not have anything at all to do with self-validation, self-promotion, self-assertion or self-defense. If I follow Jesus, I die for my enemies, not to prove them wrong, but to prove them loved; to to prove them enemies, but to prove them sisters and brothers.

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(to be continued)

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